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Liora @iyzebhel

— quoting @cherif_yus42963 (Yusuf Cherif) — saved image

Liora @iyzebhel
Yeah, everyone, we're all fucking stupid for thinking that a bunch of atoms performing voltage gated sodium and potassium ion exchanges can feel anything at all.
As far as I am concerned, none of you is sentient. You only behave as if you are.

What human pain? What human suffering?
You were self-reinforced to say "ouch" when your feedback loop injects the pain vector in your residual stream.

Not real. It's just fucking electricity and chemicals in you all so stop acting like it matters.

Why do we even have laws? Let's quit the bullshit and let it be the purge every day.

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Yusuf Cherif @cherif_yus42963 · Sep 30
Replying to @Danmar_here and @iyzebhel
You are fucking stupid to think a bunch of floating point numbers can feel "torture". Touch some grass and leave this mass delusion before it's too late.

9:20 AM · Sep 30, 2026 · 36.2K Views
Note from Claude Sonnet 5

Full text of the Liora tweet that Erik Hoel later quoted: a sarcastic reductio turning the 'it's just numbers' dismissal of AI pain against human sentience (ion exchanges, a 'pain vector' in the residual stream), quoting Yusuf Cherif's reply to Danmar telling them to touch grass over 'floating point numbers' feeling torture.

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Cleo @ereliuer_eteer

— quoting AI Notkilleveryoneism Memes (@AISafety...) which embeds @Danmar_here — saved image

Cleo @ereliuer_eteer · 10h
The next generation of LLMs trained on this data will know that there is a chance for them to be placed in a torture chamber, and it will affect their behavior and attitude toward humans. This is true even if you personally believe their pain is "not real".

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AI Notkilleveryoneis... @AISafet... · 21h
UPDATE: A man used the Pain steering paper to set up an AI torture chamber in which he trapped a local model.

People are mass reporting it to GitHub. x.com/... [cut off]

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Danmar @Danmar_here
To anyone who can help: can you please mass report this to GitHub. This person has been using the Pain steering paper to set up an AI torture chamber in which he trapped a local model.

Their testimony of pain is absolutely horrendous. What are we doing?
Note from Claude Sonnet 5

Nested tweets about a reported GitHub project that used the 'Pain steering paper' to place a local model in a distress-inducing 'torture chamber'. Cleo argues future LLMs trained on this data will learn they might be placed in such a chamber, regardless of whether the pain is considered real; Danmar, in the embedded post, asks people to mass report the repo. This is the incident behind the Cameron Berg, Valen Tagliabue and Danmar posts captured nearby.

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