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Lucas Beyer @giffmana

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Lucas Beyer (bl16) @giffmana · 6h
imma just highlight this part for @GaryMarcus and @ylecun because it's easy to miss: no tools no coding => no symbols, just AR LLM

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The results:
🏅 Asian Physics Olympiad (APhO): Perfect score, theory exam
🏅 International Physics Olympiad (IPhO): Perfect score, theory exam
🥇 International Mathematical Olympiad (IMO): Gold medal
🥇 International Chemistry Olympiad (IChO): Gold-medal-level performance
🥇 Romanian Masters of Mathematics (RMM): Gold-medal-level performance

The types of problems in the Olympiad competitions are exceptionally hard, demanding deep chains of reasoning, creative insight, and flawless argumentation. To test pure reasoning capability, we disallowed all tool use, meaning no search, no coding, and no calculator. [highlighted portion]

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AI at Meta @AIatMeta · 9h
To understand whether we're making genuine progress on reasoning, we entered our AI models in five STEM Olympiad competitions.
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Note from Claude Sonnet 5

Tweet by Lucas Beyer highlighting a passage from an AI at Meta announcement (quoted below) reporting gold/perfect-score results across five STEM olympiads (APhO, IPhO, IMO, IChO, RMM) achieved by a pure autoregressive LLM with all tools disabled (no search, coding, or calculator), addressed rhetorically to Gary Marcus and Yann LeCun as evidence against symbolic-reasoning skepticism.

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Lisan al Gaib @scaling01

— quote-tweeting Nicholas Roberts (@nick11roberts) · 14h

Lisan al Gaib ✓ @scaling01 first of all i wouldn't equate coding to reasoning secondly, the result is rather unsurprising code is much more structured, information dense and requires more reasoning than natural language, so more training data -> better generalization and capturing of nuances more params -> more memorization we knew that before [quoted tweet] Nicholas Roberts @nick11roberts · 14h 📈📉NEW SCALING LAW PHENOMENON📉📈 We find that knowledge and reasoning exhibit different scaling behaviors! ... Show more
Note from Claude Sonnet 5

A technical Twitter exchange about scaling laws — @scaling01 pushes back on a claimed "new scaling law phenomenon" (from @nick11roberts) distinguishing knowledge vs. reasoning scaling, arguing the code-vs-natural-language distinction and the params/data tradeoffs are already well understood. Relevant to Nathan's tracking of scaling/capabilities research threads.

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