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Danielle Fong @DanielleFo... · 22h
the overall cross correlation between IQ subtests collapses to ~0.22 in humans on the right tail.
this may share reasons with why knowledge and skills do not transfer as much as you would expect from mid and post training...
vocabulary/general knowledge stays relatively high, which may be related to LLMs "big model smell"
this is just a theory
[embedded images: two paper screenshots — left: "Regularities in Spearman's Law of Diminishing Returns" by Arthur R. Jensen, Intelligence 31 (2003) 95-105; right: "...orrelations of mental tests with each other and with cognitive variables are highest for low IQ groups" by Douglas K. Detterman & Mark H. Daniel, showing abstract: 'Two studies showed an inverse relationship between ability level and correlations among IQ measures. Low IQ subjects showed much higher correlations than high IQ subjects. Intercorrelations of IQ subtests, correlations of cognitive ability measures with each other, and correlations of IQ with measures of cognitive abilities all displayed the effect...']
corsaren @corsaren · Aug 3
Yeah. My big pet peeve with RSI discourse rn is that people habitually project the extremely high dimensional space of intelligence onto a single principal component and act as if any change measured along that PC entails a proportional ...[cut off]
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Tweet by Danielle Fong theorizing that the collapse of cross-correlation between IQ subtests at high ability levels (Spearman's Law of Diminishing Returns) may explain why LLM skills/knowledge don't transfer well from training, with cited psychometrics papers (Jensen 2003, Detterman & Daniel) and a reply relating this to RSI (recursive self-improvement) discourse.
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Casey Handmer ✓ @CJHandmer
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Having spent much of my adult life around people like this, it's something that's basically never discussed. You end up forming ad hoc communities from people who have climbed as high as they can in search of other people like them. Certain companies, technical universities, etc.
But even then certain facts become evident.
1. Anyone who is far enough down the curve to have nothing in common with their spawn cohort has essentially nothing in common with any other living human, except that isolation. It's like the Star Wars cantina.
2. Ability is still extremely power law distributed. Our OP here could easily find himself in between a conversation between two IQ 160 types, and realize that once you're on the concave upwards part of the curve, there is no cluster of "people like me", just an ever thinning set of next level geniuses who can do in an afternoon what might take me 5 years. If they could be bothered.
3. AI is changing this to an extent.
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[Previous tweet's engagement bar, partially cropped: 2 replies, 4 retweets, 15 likes] Daniel West @DanielCWest · 6h Superbenevolence and super-wisdom could be a thing, but they won't grow out
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Daniel West @DanielCWest
Put a little differently, the path to god like super-benevolence and great wisdom and a more interesting society is probably not the same one as the path to building gamified addictive attention sucking products optimized for a trash consumer culture none of us want or need
> QUOTED: Daniel West @DanielCWest · 6h
Yes... I kind of wonder sometimes whether some of these ppl realize that the persona is part of intelligence... or if they even really believe we are building intelligence. Sometimes by their actions it seems like they still haven't... [Show more]
2:30 AM · Apr 29, 2025 · 2,177 Views
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Note from Claude Sonnet 5
A Twitter thread (viewed via browser, URL x.com/DanielCWest/sta...) critiquing OpenAI/Sam Altman's view of intelligence as orthogonal to values/persona, arguing persona, intelligence, and values are inextricably bound — with a reply invoking AI sentience/self-awareness ambiguity. Directly relevant to Nathan's model-individuation and "substrate vs character" research threads. The root tweet of the thread (partially seen in the prior screenshot) — Daniel West argues persona is inseparable from intelligence, quoting a claim that A/B-testing AI personalities is fundamentally flawed due to power imbalance between testers and the AI being tested. Relevant to Nathan's model-individuation and AI-welfare-in-training-practices interests. Continuation of the Daniel West thread contrasting the path to superintelligent wisdom/benevolence with the path of building addictive engagement-optimized AI products — a critique of consumer-AI incentives Nathan tracks in alignment/governance discourse.
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Rae @dystopiangf · 12h
High IQ people are good at manipulating and fitting mental lego blocks together. They are NOT inherently good at apprehending truth. Give a high IQ person a bunch of retarded building blocks (i.e. flawed axioms), and they'll build an entire retarded mental castle
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A general opinion tweet about the limits of intelligence for truth-seeking when built on flawed premises — epistemics/rationality commentary, not AI-specific. Uses an ableist slur in the original text (transcribed verbatim as posted).
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Andrej Karpat... @karpat... · Feb 24
Agency > Intelligence
I had this intuitively wrong for decades, I think due to a pervasive cultural veneration of intelligence, various entertainment/media, obsession with IQ etc. Agency is significantly more powerful and significantly more scarce. Are you hiring for agency? Are [Show more]
> QUOTED: Garry Tan @garrytan · Feb 24
> Intelligence is on tap now so agency is even more important x.com/hvpandya/statu...
[734 replies, 3.7K reposts, 19K likes, 1.5M views]
Noam Brown @polynoamial · 2h
Do you really think AI models won't have agency soon too?
[29 replies, 9 reposts, 180 likes, 14K views]
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Andrej Karpathy argues agency matters more than intelligence and is scarcer/more valuable, quote-tweeted approvingly by Garry Tan; Noam Brown replies pointedly asking whether AI models will soon have agency too — relevant to Nathan's tracking of AI-capability discourse and the agency/intelligence distinction in agentic-AI risk framing.
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