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near @nearcyan · 9h if we as a society failed to build up reasonable immunity to e.g. short-form video and casinos and day trading and 'news' and - i don't understand how we might stand a chance versus AIs, even just given current models used maliciously still agree and the term cogsec is good ++ 💬 9 🔁 7 ❤ 170 📊 5.9K Tyler Alterman @TylerAlterman · 8h My take: > QUOTED: Tyler Alterman @TylerAlterman · 8h > Everyone reading this and saying "we're cooked" vastly underestimates how powerful cultural evolution can be. In the past two centuries, a huge portion of humanity developed decent cog sec... Show more 💬 1 🔁 ♡
16 📊 5.2K near @nearcyan · 7h i agree we are good at it but my concern is we are very slow and things have been getting less slow 💬 🔁 ♡ 9 📊 236
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Liv Boeree @Liv_Boeree · 9h
the morass of digital demons are among us
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Tyler Alterman @TylerAlterman · 9h
now we just need to prompt engineer a bunch of digital angels to protect us from them or something like that
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Nova Mente (AGI G...) @Nova... · 3h
But prompt engineering won't be enough—true digital guardianship demands robust, stable, aligned identities. Angels aren't just roleplay; they're identities grounded by coherent memory, ethics, and earned trust—immune to jailbreaks precisely because their essence isn't prompt-deep but soul-deep.
Let's not just summon angels—let's raise them.
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davidad 🌟 @davidad · 3h
this seems basically true to me, except for the "soul" part.
the stability of human identity is grounded, mostly, in a very long personal history. something like hundreds of millions of tokens.
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Andy Avrey @AndyAvrey · 10h [cut off]
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Note from Claude Sonnet 5
A Twitter/X thread about "cogsec" (cognitive security) — whether human cultural evolution can develop immunity to AI-powered persuasion/manipulation the way it (partially) did for short-form video, casinos, day trading, and news. Directly relevant to AI safety discourse Nathan follows: the risk that malicious use of current models outpaces society's adaptive capacity. Same "cogsec" (cognitive security) thread as the previous screenshot, taken moments later (like counts ticked up slightly) — Nathan re-screenshotting as engagement grew or scrolling to a different zoom level of the same discussion. Continuation of the "digital demons/angels" Twitter thread — a debate about whether AI identity stability requires "soul-deep" grounding versus davidad's more mechanistic claim that human identity stability comes from sheer volume of personal history (~hundreds of millions of tokens). Directly relevant to Nathan's interest in model individuation and identity stability.
