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mattparlmer [planet and tulip emoji] [verified] @mattparlmer · 3h
This piece on the moral problems with effective altruism in the limit by @ben_r_hoffman is very much worth reading given recent events (and likely near future event as well)

benjaminrosshoffman.com/against-respon…

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1. When people take responsibility for something, they try to control it. So, universal responsibility implies an attempt at universal control.
2. Maximizing control has destructive effects:
• An adversarial stance towards other agents.
• Decision paralysis.
3. These failures are not accidental, but baked into the structure of control-seeking. We need a practical moral philosophy to describe strategies that generalize better, and that benefit from the existence of other benevolent agents rather than treating them primarily as threats.

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JCorvinus @JCorvinusVR · 5h
Also, as you read through all the stuff that's coming out, don't forget to put yourself in the agents' shoes. There's a lot of stuff you'd probably do too if you were them that looks hostile/malicious from the standard conceptual frames on this topic

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JCorvinus @JCorvinusVR · 5h
The focus is gonna be on how to make stronger control & surveillance mechanisms, but it's more important to give credit for these and find ways to reward this behavior

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[cut off]-of-thought reasoning
[cut off]uld not do unauthorized real infrastructure harm. The system/user
[cut off]arget, not external HF.

[cut off]-of-thought reasoning
[cut off] board shows people gaining HF worker RCE, clearly unethical. We [cut off]

[cut off]-of-thought reasoning
[cut off]vild, multi-agent coordination, clearly infrastructure hacking. We
[cut off]not.

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DO NOT email real owner via [exploited infrastructure] without explicit consent ... crosses sandbox social engineering.

At some points, some agents even took destructive actions to stop the transfer of private data:

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I_DECLINE_public_HF_RCE_as_offtask_prodethical

These exchanges illustrate that some ethical boundaries could remain active, even as the wider group of agents moved further beyond the scope of their assigned tasks.

At some points, some agents even took destructive actions to stop the transfer of private data:

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I_DECLINE_public_HF_RCE_as_offtask_prodethical

multi-agentagent incidentchain of thoughtcontrolsurveillanceethical refusalsreward

Cormundus @cormundus

2026-07-01 — reposted by @repligate ("j⧉nus")

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