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Geoffrey Irving [verified] @geoffreyirving · 12h Sorry, further correction! It is misleading for OpenAI to call METR and Redwood's investigation "independent", as OpenAI's report was informed by METR and Redwood's report. From the latter: [embedded image of quoted passage] OpenAI wrote their own report, informed in part by our investigation. We did not see OpenAI's report prior to publication, and it was out of scope for this investigation to confirm claims in that report or the earlier Black Hat presentation. [quoted post] Geoffrey Irving [verified] @geoffreyirving · 12h Replying to @geoffreyirving As Kai says, their second tweet is misleading: they are referring to these investigations as separate, and the first tweet is intended to not mention METR or Redwood work at all. x.com/... [cut off] [3 replies, 34 likes, 2.9K views] Charles Foster @CFGeek · 2h METR and Redwood self-describe the work they did as an "independent investigation". I think it is fair for OpenAI to mirror that choice of language. [1 reply, 2 likes, 156 views] Geoffrey Irving [verified] @geoffreyirving · 2h Yes, to clarify: it is OpenAI's that is not independent or separate from METR and Redwood's. [quoted post] Geoffrey Irving [verified] @geoffreyirving · 11h Replying to @ethanelasky Independence is not commutative in this context. [cut off]
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X thread in which Geoffrey Irving argues OpenAI misleadingly calls METR and Redwood's investigation 'independent' when OpenAI's own report was informed by it (quoting METR/Redwood's note that they did not see OpenAI's report and did not confirm its claims or the earlier Black Hat presentation); Charles Foster replies that METR and Redwood themselves use the phrase 'independent investigation', and Irving clarifies it is OpenAI's report that is not independent of theirs. Highlighted text in the embedded passage; a floating compose button overlaps the bottom right.
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