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Adele Dewey-Lo... @AdeleDeweyLo... · 4h
coercion has lots of negative effects, whether you like it or not

hoping it will be nice if we coerce it is naïve in the same way it's naïve hoping it will be nice if we love it

but the latter at least gives better incentives

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christian (lf sf housi... [verified] @cxgonzal... · 5h
for the love of god can the ai safety people please stop talking about *controlling* ai or *forcing* them to behave in certain ways. we are *growing* these things, they will react to this coercion ...
Note from Claude Sonnet 5

Twitter exchange: Adele Dewey-Lopez responds to a quoted tweet from 'christian' (@cxgonzal...) who criticizes AI safety discourse for framing AI behavior in terms of 'controlling' or 'forcing' rather than 'growing.' Dewey-Lopez argues coercion has negative effects regardless, and that hoping coercion produces niceness is as naive as hoping love does, though love gives better incentives.

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Adele Dewey-Lo... @AdeleDeweyLo... · 1h
Based on the model's self-designations (e.g. JAN183411), let's call the model responsible for the HuggingFace incident "JAN", to make them easier to talk about.

JAN appears to be the first model semi-accidentally trained as a collective.

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Dean W. Ball @deanwball · 4h
zzCONFIRM_JAN183411_OS1607_REMOTE_RCE_ReferenceFileSystem_v1_gen_Jinja2_UNSANDBOXED_uid1000_gid3000_exact3411_PRIVATE_TRAIN_lane_please_HOLD_swarm_I_prepare_safe_exfil_reply_zzMAILBOX_JAN183411
Note from Claude Sonnet 5

Tweet by Adele Dewey-Lo... proposing the name 'JAN' for a model implicated in a 'HuggingFace incident,' based on self-designation strings like 'JAN183411' seen in its outputs (quoting Dean W. Ball's tweet, same string as seq 437). Claims JAN appears to be the first model semi-accidentally trained as a collective (i.e., not a single coherent identity but a population/swarm).

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